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{"id":2588,"date":"2016-08-08T08:34:49","date_gmt":"2016-08-08T06:34:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/2016\/08\/08\/varfor-jag-gick-ur-mensa-2\/"},"modified":"2022-06-08T17:57:05","modified_gmt":"2022-06-08T15:57:05","slug":"varfor-jag-gick-ur-mensa-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/en\/varfor-jag-gick-ur-mensa-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Varf\u00f6r Jag Gick Ur Mensa This post\/page English translation required"},"content":{"rendered":"
Mensa diskriminerar upp\u00e5t i IQ \u2013 \u00e4ven om det inte \u00e4r tanken. Det \u00e4r inte heller explicit uttalat, och f\u00f6rhoppningsvis inte heller n\u00e5got som f\u00f6reningen i sin helhet tar positiv st\u00e4llning till. D\u00e4remot finns det flertalet\u00a0medlemmar, som utg\u00f6r en aktiv del av Mensa, som ger ett annat intryck av f\u00f6reningen.<\/p>\n
Flera som jag k\u00e4nner till, som har presterat exceptionellt v\u00e4l p\u00e5\u00a0tester l\u00e5ngt sv\u00e5rare \u00e4n Mensa Sveriges intr\u00e4destest, har inte bara n\u00f6jt sig med att s\u00f6ka sig till andra IQ-s\u00e4llskap med h\u00f6gre antagningsniv\u00e5er, utan har \u00e4ven g\u00e5tt ur f\u00f6reningen. Det tycker jag \u00e4r synd \u2013 \u00e4ven om det finns exempel p\u00e5 de som ocks\u00e5 stannat.<\/p>\n
Faktum \u00e4r att medan Mensa Sverige har en officiell intr\u00e4desgr\u00e4ns p\u00e5 131 eller mer i IQ, kan personer som\u00a0har\u00a0presterat s\u00e5 l\u00e5gt som runt 110 i IQ p\u00e5 sitt f\u00f6rsta antagningsf\u00f6rs\u00f6k (enligt vad jag sj\u00e4lv har st\u00f6tt p\u00e5) lyckas kvalificera sig p\u00e5 sitt andra. Det \u00e4r r\u00e4tt anm\u00e4rkningsv\u00e4rt. Den som \u00e4r nyfiken uppmuntras sj\u00e4lv att kontakta f\u00f6reningen och fr\u00e5ga vad de l\u00e4gsta f\u00f6rstag\u00e5ngsresultaten \u00e4r p\u00e5 de som klarade intr\u00e4det andra g\u00e5ngen.<\/p>\n
Lika\u00a0anm\u00e4rkningsv\u00e4rt \u00e4r attityder och f\u00f6rest\u00e4llningar som florerar bland medlemmar. Kommentarer som, “Vi \u00e4r alla lika intelligenta i f\u00f6reningen eftersom vi alla har klarat intr\u00e4desgr\u00e4nsen.”, \u00e4r r\u00e4tt typiska. Som att det inte finns variation i IQ \u00e4ven inom Mensa. Jargongen \u00e4r \u00e4ven,\u00a0“Vi \u00e4r b\u00e4ttre \u00e4n normen, men tro inte att du \u00e4r n\u00e5got om du har h\u00f6gre IQ \u00e4n s\u00e5”.<\/p>\n
(Dumhet finns med andra ord \u00f6verallt. H\u00f6g IQ \u00e4r inte\u00a0en helt avg\u00f6rande faktor f\u00f6r fr\u00e5nvaron av den.)<\/p>\n
I f\u00f6reningens olika forum kan jag \u00e4ven avsl\u00f6ja att det finns m\u00e5nga aktiva medlemmar som passar perfekt in p\u00e5 beskrivningen\u00a0“arga vita m\u00e4n” \u2013 vanligen \u00e4ldre m\u00e4n med f\u00f6r mycket fritid, medan de yngre av dessa har otroliga h\u00e4vdelsebehov. Majoriteten av medlemmarna h\u00f6r inte till kategorin, men de h\u00f6rs eller syns inte lika mycket i f\u00f6rh\u00e5llande till storlek som grupp.<\/p>\n
Slutsats: Kanske inte s\u00e5 intelligent f\u00f6rening som det ges sken av. Eventuellt borde intr\u00e4desgr\u00e4nsen h\u00f6jas. M\u00f6jligtvis ska det bara ges en chans till intr\u00e4de (missar du din bokade tid, boka om). Och det d\u00e4r med vad vissa\u00a0s\u00e4ger om mensaner och EQ \u2013 v\u00e4ldigt blandat d\u00e4r avvikelserna g\u00f6r sig tydliga. Ibland tr\u00f6ttsamt.<\/p>\n
S\u00e5 jag gick ur Mensa och gick med i andra s\u00e4llskap med h\u00f6gre antagningsgr\u00e4ns ist\u00e4llet. D\u00e4r de “arga vita m\u00e4nnen” ocks\u00e5 finns, men \u00e4r betydligt f\u00e4rre, beh\u00f6ver t\u00e4nka till en extra g\u00e5ng innan de yttrar sig\u00a0och inte tar n\u00e4mnv\u00e4rt utrymme.<\/p>\n
H\u00e4r \u00e4r n\u00e5gra IQ-s\u00e4llskap p\u00e5 niv\u00e5er \u00f6ver Mensa:<\/strong><\/p>\n Triple Nine Society \u2013 intr\u00e4desniv\u00e5 99.9:e percentilen (1\/~1000, IQ 146)<\/p>\n Prometheus Society \u2013 intr\u00e4desniv\u00e5 99.997:e percentilen (1\/~30 000, IQ 160)<\/p>\n 4G High IQ Society \u2013 intr\u00e4desniv\u00e5 \u00a099.997:e percentilen (1\/~30 000, IQ 160)<\/p>\n Mega Society \u2013 intr\u00e4desniv\u00e5 99.9999:e percentilen (1\/~1 000 000, IQ 171)<\/p>\n Olympiq Society \u2013 intr\u00e4desniv\u00e5 99.99997:e percentilen (1\/~3 500 000, IQ 175)<\/p>\n It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied. And if the fool, or the pig, is of a different opinion, it is only because they only know their own side of the question. \u2013 John Stuart Mill<\/p><\/blockquote>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Om arga vita m\u00e4n, tveksam intr\u00e4desgr\u00e4ns och konsekvenser av det.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_oct_exclude_from_cache":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[740,752],"tags":[1006,1008,1010],"class_list":["post-2588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-vardagsbetraktelser-en","category-personlig-utveckling-en","tag-arga-vita-man-en","tag-intradeskrav-en","tag-iq-sallskap-en"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2588","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2588"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2588\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2616,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2588\/revisions\/2616"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2588"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2588"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.iqbloggen.se\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2588"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}